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September 22, 2009

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Hi Amy,

I really resonated with the descriptions of these transits! I have definitely been coming into a new truth and some awareness.

Here are the matches:

- Recently, Jupiter (now at 23-degrees Pisces) crossed over my descendant at 22-degrees Pisces (though for Jung it was the ascendant). If I were to swap your analysis of first house transit for a seventh house transit, I would read this as potentially, a pursuit of my truth in and of “other” (relationships).

- You also mention Jung’s progressed moon in the 8th and Uranus crossing his ascendant.
My progressed moon recently moved out of the 8th house, after a “dark night of the soul” period in the past few years. (That 8th house transit definitively marked a change in my life, and in my philosophies. Everything has shifted.) Also, Uranus (currently at 28-degrees Pisces), like Jupiter, recently crossed my 22-degrees Pisces ascendant.

- And then you mention how the above transits would have been especially powerful for Jung, with his south node and Aries also in his natal 8th house. I also have Jupiter in the 8th house. And my south node is the 9th – my progressed moon has either already rolled over it, or will soon!

- During these transits, it you indicated that Jung was dealing with his Libra progressed moon “confronting demons having to do with habitual ways of hiding himself in relationship, possibly having him feeling paradoxically alone as he made his descent into his own madness.” For me, the moon has been exactly the opposite – in Aries, and then later Taurus. So if I take what you noted about Libra, and flip it (at least for my Aries experience), I would have been confronting demons having to do with habitual ways of hiding myself in my own identity. That sounds odd at first, but it’s true!! I have been coming out of a shell of alienation – of feeling like the “only one” who has the thoughts and insights and awareness and realizations I do. I’m not the only one! In fact, just this morning, I was thanking my 8th house “dark night” for clearing out old out-moded stifling relationships, and making room for these wonderful new ones! The gratitude largely being attributed to how much I’m growing in this new opportunity to speak without requiring translation. I can say all my outlandish ideas and thoughts and metaphors, and no one stares back at me blankly! I keep feeling like the ugly duckling who finally found other swans.

I guess then, the Taurean translation would be “confronting demons having to do with habitual ways of hiding myself in my possessions, or what I perceive myself to externally possess. I think I’m still learning this one.

You also note that as his progressed moon rolled over his Jupiter, he would have “been prompted to free fall into his own beliefs”. I almost think he would have free fallen somehow into the beliefs of “other” with everything happening in Libra. With me, I think I fell more solidly into my own beliefs, of myself – with the Aries energy. Maybe the “solidly” is the Taurean part!

As far as the impact of a Uranus conjunct Ascendant – where you note “liberating and even divorcing him from the persona he'd adopted up until that point, the face he presented to the world as well as how he acted upon it, and he was set adrift to find his own path back (Uranus often shocks us by separating us from something that does not serve our highest individual truth)” … for me, with Uranus conjunct Descendant (occurring last in December 2009), I would take your notes and flip them again, to be something like “liberating my perception of “Other” from the image I’d projected upon “Other” and how I acted upon it and left to find my own path back to some new vision. This has occurred. Really in big not world-view level way, but in a universal-existence view level way. So incredible, these insights.

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Sorry for such a long reply. HOWEVER, your post resonated so strongly with me. And Jung has also resonated with me before. AND, if I can offer my experiences as any kind of relative “bar”, your interpretations are pretty accurate. :)

~ Christie

Hi Jeff - thanks for commenting! I do not know the date of that vision - let us know what you find out!

Hi Amy, fascinating work! I am just beggining to research Jungs 1939 vision of the Alchemical Christ (or Plutonic Christ)as I suspect it was in some way compensatory to the unleashing of the Atomic bomb.The Manhattan project begun in 1939.I know that in 1939 Pluto in Leo moves into a trine with Jupiter and conjuncts his Sun, Uranus conjuncts his natal Uranus and Saturn his natal Neptune. I am curious as to either the exact date of the vision or more precise time of the year? Regardless it was a pretty amzing year for an amazing Psyche.

Thanks so much for reading and commenting everyone!!

Precise and elegant astro-analysis, Amy! I love hearing about posthumous progressed aspects at times such as these. It's great evidence that the soul not only leaves a legacy, but is perhaps still hanging around. The soul lives on ;)

Amy~ Your posts on Jung and the Red Book are excellent and for those who have had their interest stimulated, I'd suggest reading his autobiography: "Memories, Dreams, and Reflections". His family unfortunately heavily edited this book as well, however the chapters having to do with his encounter with the unconscious through his breakdown are really excellent. Amy, your analysis of the charts is truly amazing, and at this point I don't have anything to add. However I'm going to go to NYC to hear the lecture and see the book, and will comment more then. For those who'd like to hear a radio broadcast on what's happening, it's here: http://CarlJungsRedBook.blogspot.com ~ elizabeth spring

My interest in Carl Jung led me to study astrology. Since I have Lilith conjunct my ascendant, I appreciated your comments about this point on Jung's chart.
Amazon just notified me today that the Hardcover of the Red Book will be available on December 4th at a cost of $105 plus. I surmise the color drawings by Jung add a lot of value to the writings.

Thanks Amy, I've heard about Jung's Red Book for several years from various shamanic teachers in the Foundation for Shamanic Studies. Good to have an astrologer's insights, eager to read part 2.

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